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27th September 2009

Choice voting too complex for Lowell?

posted in In the News, Local Politics |

On Thursday, The Sun featured an article in its news section, claiming that Gail Cenik, office manager for the Election and Census Commission, didn’t understand choice voting: It’s certainly not rocket science, but it may as well be for all the confusion swirling around proportional-representation voting these days,” began the article. “Even the head of the city’s election department doesn’t fully understand it. ‘If it passes, good luck to us. We’ll just have to figure it out,’ said Gail Cenik…” Well, I called Cenik on Friday regarding the story’s accuracy. Her response: “The article really didn’t convey what I said,” she noted, adding that it was taken out of context. “I’m not stupid. I understand the concepts and the reasons why people support it (choice voting). I don’t fully know how the tabulation works and that’s where I have to do my homework.” Cenik explained that getting those details has not been a priority since her office, which includes herself and two assistants, has had to verify the 8,000-plus signatures needed to put choice voting on the ballot; verify all other signatures required for the upcoming municipal election, including council, school committee and vocational seats; as well as prepare for upcoming special senate elections.

Apparently the complexity issue has cropped up in other arenas from those opposing a switch to a priority voting system. According to today’s Column regarding a debate on the issue on WCAP: “Former Lowell and Cambridge City Manager James Sullivan, who opposes the charter change, said it works in Cambridge because they are more “philosophical…When Fahlberg (Victoria Fahlberg, a lead proponent of choice voting) tried to challenge Sullivan’s comments, asking if he felt Lowell people were not able to comprehend the plan as well as Cambridge voters, host Warren Shaw, who was supposed to be an impartial moderator, shut her off.”

Is ranking your votes too complicated?? Check here for some details and stay tuned for more on this issue from me. On another note regarding media inaccuracy, check Mimi’s post at LiL today regarding a misleading Sun article on council candidate Ray Weicker’s recent vote on the Licensing Commission.

There are currently 6 responses to “Choice voting too complex for Lowell?”

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  1. 1 On September 27th, 2009, Cliff Krieger said:

    I don’t think Choice Voting is too complex.

    I think one reason to pick this form of voting is that those who now vote for only one candidate for fear they will dilute that vote if they then vote for a different candidate will be able to relax and vote for as many as they have votes for.

    And, I hope the buzz from all the discussion will cause more voters to turn out for our election in November.

    Regards  —  Cliff

  2. 2 On September 28th, 2009, Jackie said:

    The below comment was emailed to me from Victoria Fahlberg:
    Most people find that ranking their vote is quite simple. Check out this sample ballot to see just how easy it is (although our ballot will have more candidates): http://www.fairvotelowell.org/sample_ballot.pdf

    There will be voter education prior to our first election with Choice Voting and by law, voters are allowed to have up to 3 ballots if they make a mistake. When a ranked voting system was implemented in 2006 in Burlington, VT, the validity rate was 99.9% for the first election and it went up to 99.99% for the second election.

    When people refer to the complexity, they generally are talking about the vote tabulation. In the United States, unlike most democratic countries, the winner take all system is used for almost all elections. In that kind of a system, vote tabulation simply requires counting one at a time. Anything other than that will be more complicated.

    Voters do not need to know the details of the tabulation, as the optical scanning equipment will be programmed to do that. However, if they want to know, we have a short video and other information on our website: http://www.fairvotelowell.org.

    What voters do need to know, though, is that they can trust that the vote tabulation equipment and software are programmed correctly so that they can have confidence that their votes are accurately counted, same thing they need to know with our current system. It is important to be clear that the same people who run Lowell’s elections now, and who do so accurately and impartially, will continue to run and monitor Lowell’s elections in the future, no matter how the scanning equipment is programmed to count votes. If you have faith and trust in our current election officials, you should be assured that those same folks will continue their diligence with whatever voting system we have in place in Lowell.

  3. 3 On October 1st, 2009, kpemscott said:

    This seems like a very easy system to understand for the voter- Rank 1-9
    It also encourages new people to run that may have felt excluded in the past.

  4. 4 On October 1st, 2009, Jackie said:

    I like that it requires the voter to prioritize, which eliminates the concern of one vote potentially canceling another. Also, it doesn’t seem to support one group of voters being able to elect a block of candidates because they also have to prioritize their votes. The chance of more voters having at least one of their favorites get elected seems more likely under this system, which, as you mention, should encourage more candidates and hopefully more voters too.

  5. 5 On October 1st, 2009, kpemscott said:

    “Also, it doesn’t seem to support one group of voters being able to elect a block of candidates because they also have to prioritize their votes”

    This all comes down to getting voters to vote. I am hoping that there really are that many voters that did not vote in the past because they felt their candidate could not win.

  6. 6 On October 1st, 2009, Jackie said:

    No way to know for sure how many people opt out because they don’t feel their vote matters or how many never participated in the first place because they couldn’t be bothered. Either way, if democracy is going to survive and our community thrive, we must get more folks paying attention and engaged in the process. Otherwise, we have government by the connected few–Now this might be appealing to longterm incumbents who’ve got their base locked in, but what promise does it hold for the community as a whole? In the end, it comes down to getting the government we deserve.

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